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Derrick Pizur
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:18 am    Post subject: VRE and hosting Reply with quote

I am building a network of servers in various datacenters with different IP blocks etc... for the VRE concept.

So far we have servers in 3 different datacenters:

HostDime
Liquidweb
Savvis

The physical location of these datacenters is also spread out:

Michigan, Florida, and St Louis

Our next server should be with The Planet datacenter in Dallas Texas

Managing the billing and such for this is crazy but we are doing it for your benefit.

What else would you guys like us to come out with to better serve you?

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Dave Tropeano
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it depends on where people are coming from. The concept and precautions of VREs is very familiar to those of us that have been building mininets for years. It is awesome to see you addressing that market. I think John's writeup on VRE is taking the mininet concept past the technology level of cross-linking and controlling link strength distribution and into more of a business proposition, but the same fundamental issues remain.

So all that horse hockey said, I think there are a couple of things that would be ideal:

* global hosting. Geographic distribution of hosts is important depending on the size of the VRE and the extent that you are trying to create multiple entities the VRE is operating under.

* Transparency of the control panels. A single WHM and a single CPANEL to manage all the worldwide hosting accounts.

* Small, lost cost hosting options. There may be a business model issue here for you but one of the VRE issues that is also a mininet issue is coverage of keyword spaces. This is best done with a massive number of sites and not all of them the same size. You offer a great selection of medium to large reseller options now. But there is value in smaller and even static hosting options as well. Again I am looking at not having to go to another hosting vendor and knowing that I mix 10 Mb sites with 100Mb sites and 50, 200, 12, 30, and 2MB sites. Not all have or need LAMP.

Again, I think the building out of a hosting service for VREs is wonderful. Having to manage this for the past few years is not always fun. My perspective is from the mininet world where we are more focused on link strength distribution through our VRE, but the fundamental business concept is the same at the business level.

I think the perspective we bring, good and bad, is trying to make the VRE look like an organic linking structure when in fact it is not.

Keep up the great work and I look forward to your continued progress in this area.

dave
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the information Dave. I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

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